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Phoenotopia FAQ

Posted by Quells - August 21st, 2014


I've been getting a lot of questions on how to progress on the tricky parts of Phoenotopia, so to alleviate my inbox, I'll start listing them here. Refer to this if you're really stuck! (If you have a guide you'd like me to link here, PM me)

============ Other Awesome Guides ============

A more comprehensive guide by nggroundsplayer347

http://www.scribd.com/doc/237933823/Phoenotopia-Guide

============ CHAPTER 0 : Miscellaneous ============

Q: Are there missables in this game?
In Zelda fashion, no. If you think you've found a missable item, PM me.

Q: My green bracelet is gone!?
The green bracelet disappears because I didn't have a slot for some key quest items. So the green bracelet will temporarily leave your inventory when you're carrying the bandit or the golem head. But don't worry! Just by continuing your journey, the green bracelet will return! As for why I chose to the slot of the green bracelet, it's because the gift that Aella gives you can't be taken advantage of until later (by which point you should have the green bracelet back).

Q: I'm using a 360 controller and the up/down is inverted?
I am aware of such an issue, and Tom Fulp was actually the first to tell me about it. The conclusion we reached is that the error lies in the flash version of your browser. In Tom's case, the up and down were inverted on Chrome but worked fine in IE. The up and down works correctly for me.

So this one is a hard one to tackle - there hasn't been too much noise about this issue, so I'm inclined to think the current Up/Down on the analog is the correct configuration for most people. I recommend trying it with a different browser to see if you have different results. If there is enough noise about this, I will put this higher on my priority queue, but for now saving problems are.
 

============ CHAPTER 1 : Panselo & Duri Forest ============

Q: Why is the slingshot so weak?
It's more of a stunning tool. That bat should be your bread and butter.

Q: How do I defeat frogs?
Frogs hop at the same rate, height, and distance every time, so it's possible to know where they'll land. Stand at a spot you know they'll appear before and charge up your weapon to defeat them in one hit! Later when you get the slingshot you can also stun them.

Q: How do I cross the gap in the temple ruins?
First shoot the switch to extend the bridge to your side. Once you cross the bridge, hit the switch again to extend the bridge to the other side. Then stand on the edge of that newly moved bridge, and shoot the switch on the next platform to bring it over to you. Basically hit the switches twice!

Q: How do I defeat the Armored Toad Boss?
Shoot the Duri Fruit patch above him or bouce a sling rock off the wall behind him to hit his back. Doing so will get him to turn around revealing his weak back side.

Q: How do I cross Atai Bridge or crawl through small spaces?
You need to buy a "Scroll of Rolling" back at the Panselo Dojo. This will allow you to roll through the small spaces.

============ CHAPTER 2 : Atai and the Bandits Lair ============

Q: How do I get the bandit in Atai's jail to reveal the Bandits' Lair?
Buy a Talkinator potion from the potions witch and give it to him.

Q: How do I get bombs?
Talk to Lisa and ask her about "interesting places to visit?". She'll reveal to you Adar's house where you can then find bombs.

Q: How can I make some money?
A woman in Atai's market place will buy Duri fruit from you. Also the man at Honey Bee Labs will buy Honey Combs from you.

Q: How can I get more health items?
If you're strapped for cash, there's a spot in Duri forest that has 3 healing fruits you can collect. The fruits will respawn if you leave the area to the world map, so it's possible to get a lot.

Q: How do I defeat the Sand Dragon?
Youtube Video

To dodge him effectively you can clear out his lava pools with bombs. You can also whack his spitfire in the air to cancel it out (but that's a risky maneuver). To dodge his roll attack, try to roll under it as it's coming. Also helps if you have the hammer, since you'll do a lot more damage. Feed him a bomb when he's burrowing underground and snapping at you to stun him and make him vulnerable to your attacks.

============ CHAPTER 3 : Thomas's Lab, Daea, Dungeons, and the Prince Tower ============

Q: How do I enter Thomas's Lab?
The first room of his house has a switch hidden beneath a box on the left wall. Shoot the box to reveal the switch. Then shoot the switch. Click here for a picture.

Q: How do I defeat the robot in Thomas's Lab?
Video Here
He has only a few different patterns of laser attacks. Once you learn to dodge them, it's simply a matter of pushing him over the chasm and flipping the switch.

Q: How do I access the sewers?
After Thomas has been kidnapped, to access the sewers, you need to talk to a sequence of NPCs in this order:
1. First is the maid in the upper right most room of the inn. She says she saw Thomas get dragged away.
2. Then the guard in jail (lower left most area in Daea). He tells you to talk to the king.
3. Then the orange haired little girl outside the castle gates. She says that a person named "Ruby" could get you into the sewers. Her apartment is the middle residential area.
4. At Ruby's apartment, is a man who tells you Ruby went to buy lunch.
5. The store keeper at the food shop tells you Ruby just left for the sewer.
The sewers will now be opened.

Q: How do I access blocks A, B, and E of the dungeons?
There's a prisoner you can rescue in Block D. He tells you of a weak floor in Block C. Use a bomb where he tells you and you can get into Block E, which contains keys to reach the other blocks.

Q: How do I navigate the ladder obstacle course in the tower?
Watch this video 

Q: How do I defeat the Kobold boss?
Youtube Video
Generally stay on the opposite corner of where he is so that you can respond quickly to his change of direction. Place a spear on the wall ahead of time so that you can quickly move up or down. When he charges his blue ball of death attack throw a spear into the opening of his shield. If he's hanging upside while charging, you need to hop to throw the spear in. Finally, make use of charge attacks - they do double damage and can hit up to 3 times in a row if you're spamming the attack button hard enough.

============ CHAPTER 4 : Beyond the Wall ============

Q: How do I defeat the Big Eyed Boss?
Link to video
Big Eye follows a set pattern of 5 phases. Learning how to handle and dodge the attacks of each phase and you will survive.

To do damage effectively however, you want to wait until the right phase. When you close the 4 smaller eyes he'll open his big eye but only for a set amount time. So if you open his big eye at a bad time and there are a lot of distractions on the field, you will have squandered your chance to damage him.

The best phase to do damage is the 5th phase when he's shooting 2 giant laser beams since there are no distractions on the field if you're standing in front of him. So it's best to close 3 of his smaller eyes, and then wait for his 5th phase, before you close his 4th small eye.

Q: How do I outrun 66?
As you are running away from him there are switches you can hit to close the doors. Every door you close on 66 delays him and buys you more time. If you hit a switch to open a door, there is usually a switch to close that same door. If you open it, don't leave it open!

Finally hit the switches using your jump attack, since that is a lot faster than your sling shot. You should only use the slingshot to activate a switch once during this whole chase sequence.

Here's a video

============ For Completionists ============

Q: How do I access Forgotten Forest?
Collect 30 moon stones and the teleporter in Fran's lab will be activated.

Q: What is the scope of the Heart Ruby and Moon Stone tracker in the world map selection screen?
It extends to all obtainable collectables if you were to enter from that map location. There are two problematic areas where the scope is really broad because they have secret paths connecting many areas. The first big area is Atai and the Bandits' lair which are connected by the well passage. The second is Daea and the Prince Tower connected by the Dungeons.

Q: What are the non-quests (ie the dead ends)?
- There is no quest behind feeding the Perro bird in Daea
- No quest behind the fake love letters in Daea
- There's no quest to get a Sand Dragon egg (there were plans, but they did not pan out)
- There's no quest behind the abducted Harpy. That's for the sequel.
- The door you see when running from 66 can not be accessed.
(Will add more non-quests as they come to my attention)

Q: How often does Chocolate Protein Shake work? How many Heart Rubies are there?
Five times. To get 99 HP you need to find all 23 heart rubies. That gets you to 89 HP. From there five protein shakes will get you the rest of the way to 99 HP.

Q: Tips for getting the speed run medal?
- The only heart rubies you should get are the ones that bosses drop. Any other one is too big a detour.
- Plan a smart route for which money chests to grab. You only want to get just enough for the key quest items (lamp, float donut, & roll scroll). For example, in Duri forest it's better to grab the money chest going back from the first boss when there are no enemies, then before.
- The only non-key item I bought was the hammer. 
- Sweet stamina boosting items like honey make a big difference in areas like Misty Gorge, where fast recharging stamina allows you nearly limitless jumps in water.
- If you die, refresh the browser to prevent the game from overwriting your save time or number of deaths.
- Expect it to be hard.

Speed Run Ch 1

Speed Run Ch 2

Speed Run Ch 3

Speed Run Ch 4

(I will update this news post as I get more questions.)


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Comments

I forgot to mention that this game is great since you put a lot of effort to it.

theamazingmiguelx:
1: No idea, can't help you there.
2: Phantom Shrimp meat, the reward is the most potent renewable healing item in the game... Not including stuff found in the Hidden Village.
3: As far as I know, they are in the game to be eaten to get an achievement.
4&5: You need to do the Alchemists sidequest and get the Mikan potion, give this to the insomniac, then you can do a mission for the bad postal service guy.
6: No.
7: That Area contains the best armor in the game.
8: I'm not entirely sure about those two.
9: I'm pretty sure it's just scenery.

tjanks a lot! xD

are those red robots that use melee attacks invincible or something? I killed one but I just got back up.

maybe a walkthrough on the eye would be best. I tried doing a bunch of things, but it is almost impossible to dodge it all.

how do I get phantom shrimp?

Just putting it out there. Maybe a decent walkthrough to help people who are perfectionist to get through the game with everything.

i have the rocket boots but, what now? i don't know where to go. help plz

Has anybody gotten all 40 moonstones? I'm completely stuck on 39.

Okay, so I got the asteroid from Misty Gorge. Where is the other one located? (You don't need to be specific, just tell me what area to look in). I'm up to the Ancient's Crater at the moment so I'm wondering if I could get the weapon the blacksmith proposes at this time.

@slarstorm you get the second asteroid from Fran after collecting 25 moon stones

ok, so I managed to get these locations on the map: Duri Forest, Panselo, Sunflower Road west and east, Atai bridge West and East, Atai city, Bandit's lair, Adar's house, Misty Gorge North and South, Cross Roads, Daea, Prince's tower, Thomas's lab, Fran's lab, Farmer's Block, Great Walls, Dread Lands north and south, Mul Caverns North and South, Forgotten forest east and west, Hidden village, and Ancient Crater.

Now, if there are any more locations, please tell me how to get there, because I'm trying to fine 4 more moonstones and I have no idea how to get them. I've searched all the other places and I'm fairly certain I swiped them in each area that I've been to.

also, how many ruby hearts are there?

Another thing: drinking the chocolate protein shake only works a few times. Afterwards, like two or three uses, it won't boost your health at all. Is this a bug or is it intentional?

[spoilers]
Still, here's the number of moonstones I remember getting:

1. Pensola, the wall at the far right of the town. There's a small duct at the bottom of the wall that you can roll under if you got the skill. In there is a compartment that contains three boxes that should have the stone. If it's not there, then it should be in the other section, which can be accessed by jumping from the right most building and lobbing a spear at the wall. This will provide a landing point for the jump boots so you can go through a door into the rest of the wall.

2. there should be a moonstone in the sunflower roads, in the eastern portion. in the leaves somewhere in the middle of the area.

3. I believe there is a moonstone in the first section of Atai city. At the very left of the first section, there should be a building with two boxes on top with anchors on them. break the boxes to get the stone.

4. The second section of Atai, the mayor's place, has a pot right above where you start out. it can only be accessed with jump boots and a stamina boosting item. You have to jump from the mayor's palace, probably from the highest tower.

that's all I can remember for now. Hope this helps somewhat, and please tell me what else you guys have discovered so far. Not getting those moonstones is really bugging me.

Oh, and one other question. In Duri forest, when you enter the temple, the save spot before the boss. Actually, the corridor before the last save point. Isn't there a blocked door? I was wondering how to get in there but I've never been able to.

you go to the right, jump down and pick up the metal box on the bottom, carry it up, walk to the edge and drop it. Backtrack to the left and that room will be open. There's a moonstone in there.

I would really love it if the game updated with some sort of moonstone counter, so you know how many there are left to find in each area.

Is it possible to kill a (spooky, scary) red skeleton?

@Surgeshock, yes. But only with a pit/ incinirator. Not physcially possible with any weapon.

for all those trying to get into forgotten forest and unable to climb to cliff:
You DO NOT climb the wall. There is another way to enter the forest, though you need to clear certain sidequests and probably advance far enough into the story in order to get there.

As to how: try figuring it out yourself. I will not reply to PMs asking me about it.

Can anything be done about the soldier who's getting love letters and her "admirers"?

How would you cook something like say, Translucent meat?

Huh. I'm stumped at 36 Moonstones, which seems to be where a lot of other people are stuck too. Got 5 in the Forgotten Forest, almost positive I've cleared the place. Got 1 from the Harpy in the village.

I'll answer a few common questions, and maybe someone will be able to answer mine!

*spoilers, obviously*

WHAT DO YOU DO IN W. FORGOTTEN FOREST? You can't scale the cliff. You need to collect 30 moonstones to gain access to the rest of the forest.

WHERE DO YOU GET THE SECOND ASTEROID? 25 moonstones.

HOW DO YOU KILL RED ROBOTS? You can't.

My questions:

Where do you find the Phantom Shrimp Meat?

Where do I go from 36 Moonstones? I think it's obvious there's a location across the river from Panselo.

Someone says a harpy went missing in the eastern forest, but I scanned the place to no avail.

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