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Phoenotopia FAQ

Posted by Quells - August 21st, 2014


I've been getting a lot of questions on how to progress on the tricky parts of Phoenotopia, so to alleviate my inbox, I'll start listing them here. Refer to this if you're really stuck! (If you have a guide you'd like me to link here, PM me)

============ Other Awesome Guides ============

A more comprehensive guide by nggroundsplayer347

http://www.scribd.com/doc/237933823/Phoenotopia-Guide

============ CHAPTER 0 : Miscellaneous ============

Q: Are there missables in this game?
In Zelda fashion, no. If you think you've found a missable item, PM me.

Q: My green bracelet is gone!?
The green bracelet disappears because I didn't have a slot for some key quest items. So the green bracelet will temporarily leave your inventory when you're carrying the bandit or the golem head. But don't worry! Just by continuing your journey, the green bracelet will return! As for why I chose to the slot of the green bracelet, it's because the gift that Aella gives you can't be taken advantage of until later (by which point you should have the green bracelet back).

Q: I'm using a 360 controller and the up/down is inverted?
I am aware of such an issue, and Tom Fulp was actually the first to tell me about it. The conclusion we reached is that the error lies in the flash version of your browser. In Tom's case, the up and down were inverted on Chrome but worked fine in IE. The up and down works correctly for me.

So this one is a hard one to tackle - there hasn't been too much noise about this issue, so I'm inclined to think the current Up/Down on the analog is the correct configuration for most people. I recommend trying it with a different browser to see if you have different results. If there is enough noise about this, I will put this higher on my priority queue, but for now saving problems are.
 

============ CHAPTER 1 : Panselo & Duri Forest ============

Q: Why is the slingshot so weak?
It's more of a stunning tool. That bat should be your bread and butter.

Q: How do I defeat frogs?
Frogs hop at the same rate, height, and distance every time, so it's possible to know where they'll land. Stand at a spot you know they'll appear before and charge up your weapon to defeat them in one hit! Later when you get the slingshot you can also stun them.

Q: How do I cross the gap in the temple ruins?
First shoot the switch to extend the bridge to your side. Once you cross the bridge, hit the switch again to extend the bridge to the other side. Then stand on the edge of that newly moved bridge, and shoot the switch on the next platform to bring it over to you. Basically hit the switches twice!

Q: How do I defeat the Armored Toad Boss?
Shoot the Duri Fruit patch above him or bouce a sling rock off the wall behind him to hit his back. Doing so will get him to turn around revealing his weak back side.

Q: How do I cross Atai Bridge or crawl through small spaces?
You need to buy a "Scroll of Rolling" back at the Panselo Dojo. This will allow you to roll through the small spaces.

============ CHAPTER 2 : Atai and the Bandits Lair ============

Q: How do I get the bandit in Atai's jail to reveal the Bandits' Lair?
Buy a Talkinator potion from the potions witch and give it to him.

Q: How do I get bombs?
Talk to Lisa and ask her about "interesting places to visit?". She'll reveal to you Adar's house where you can then find bombs.

Q: How can I make some money?
A woman in Atai's market place will buy Duri fruit from you. Also the man at Honey Bee Labs will buy Honey Combs from you.

Q: How can I get more health items?
If you're strapped for cash, there's a spot in Duri forest that has 3 healing fruits you can collect. The fruits will respawn if you leave the area to the world map, so it's possible to get a lot.

Q: How do I defeat the Sand Dragon?
Youtube Video

To dodge him effectively you can clear out his lava pools with bombs. You can also whack his spitfire in the air to cancel it out (but that's a risky maneuver). To dodge his roll attack, try to roll under it as it's coming. Also helps if you have the hammer, since you'll do a lot more damage. Feed him a bomb when he's burrowing underground and snapping at you to stun him and make him vulnerable to your attacks.

============ CHAPTER 3 : Thomas's Lab, Daea, Dungeons, and the Prince Tower ============

Q: How do I enter Thomas's Lab?
The first room of his house has a switch hidden beneath a box on the left wall. Shoot the box to reveal the switch. Then shoot the switch. Click here for a picture.

Q: How do I defeat the robot in Thomas's Lab?
Video Here
He has only a few different patterns of laser attacks. Once you learn to dodge them, it's simply a matter of pushing him over the chasm and flipping the switch.

Q: How do I access the sewers?
After Thomas has been kidnapped, to access the sewers, you need to talk to a sequence of NPCs in this order:
1. First is the maid in the upper right most room of the inn. She says she saw Thomas get dragged away.
2. Then the guard in jail (lower left most area in Daea). He tells you to talk to the king.
3. Then the orange haired little girl outside the castle gates. She says that a person named "Ruby" could get you into the sewers. Her apartment is the middle residential area.
4. At Ruby's apartment, is a man who tells you Ruby went to buy lunch.
5. The store keeper at the food shop tells you Ruby just left for the sewer.
The sewers will now be opened.

Q: How do I access blocks A, B, and E of the dungeons?
There's a prisoner you can rescue in Block D. He tells you of a weak floor in Block C. Use a bomb where he tells you and you can get into Block E, which contains keys to reach the other blocks.

Q: How do I navigate the ladder obstacle course in the tower?
Watch this video 

Q: How do I defeat the Kobold boss?
Youtube Video
Generally stay on the opposite corner of where he is so that you can respond quickly to his change of direction. Place a spear on the wall ahead of time so that you can quickly move up or down. When he charges his blue ball of death attack throw a spear into the opening of his shield. If he's hanging upside while charging, you need to hop to throw the spear in. Finally, make use of charge attacks - they do double damage and can hit up to 3 times in a row if you're spamming the attack button hard enough.

============ CHAPTER 4 : Beyond the Wall ============

Q: How do I defeat the Big Eyed Boss?
Link to video
Big Eye follows a set pattern of 5 phases. Learning how to handle and dodge the attacks of each phase and you will survive.

To do damage effectively however, you want to wait until the right phase. When you close the 4 smaller eyes he'll open his big eye but only for a set amount time. So if you open his big eye at a bad time and there are a lot of distractions on the field, you will have squandered your chance to damage him.

The best phase to do damage is the 5th phase when he's shooting 2 giant laser beams since there are no distractions on the field if you're standing in front of him. So it's best to close 3 of his smaller eyes, and then wait for his 5th phase, before you close his 4th small eye.

Q: How do I outrun 66?
As you are running away from him there are switches you can hit to close the doors. Every door you close on 66 delays him and buys you more time. If you hit a switch to open a door, there is usually a switch to close that same door. If you open it, don't leave it open!

Finally hit the switches using your jump attack, since that is a lot faster than your sling shot. You should only use the slingshot to activate a switch once during this whole chase sequence.

Here's a video

============ For Completionists ============

Q: How do I access Forgotten Forest?
Collect 30 moon stones and the teleporter in Fran's lab will be activated.

Q: What is the scope of the Heart Ruby and Moon Stone tracker in the world map selection screen?
It extends to all obtainable collectables if you were to enter from that map location. There are two problematic areas where the scope is really broad because they have secret paths connecting many areas. The first big area is Atai and the Bandits' lair which are connected by the well passage. The second is Daea and the Prince Tower connected by the Dungeons.

Q: What are the non-quests (ie the dead ends)?
- There is no quest behind feeding the Perro bird in Daea
- No quest behind the fake love letters in Daea
- There's no quest to get a Sand Dragon egg (there were plans, but they did not pan out)
- There's no quest behind the abducted Harpy. That's for the sequel.
- The door you see when running from 66 can not be accessed.
(Will add more non-quests as they come to my attention)

Q: How often does Chocolate Protein Shake work? How many Heart Rubies are there?
Five times. To get 99 HP you need to find all 23 heart rubies. That gets you to 89 HP. From there five protein shakes will get you the rest of the way to 99 HP.

Q: Tips for getting the speed run medal?
- The only heart rubies you should get are the ones that bosses drop. Any other one is too big a detour.
- Plan a smart route for which money chests to grab. You only want to get just enough for the key quest items (lamp, float donut, & roll scroll). For example, in Duri forest it's better to grab the money chest going back from the first boss when there are no enemies, then before.
- The only non-key item I bought was the hammer. 
- Sweet stamina boosting items like honey make a big difference in areas like Misty Gorge, where fast recharging stamina allows you nearly limitless jumps in water.
- If you die, refresh the browser to prevent the game from overwriting your save time or number of deaths.
- Expect it to be hard.

Speed Run Ch 1

Speed Run Ch 2

Speed Run Ch 3

Speed Run Ch 4

(I will update this news post as I get more questions.)


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Comments

how do you get to the other side of the outer wall?

You will gain access to it just by advancing the story line. So make sure you meet Thomas and all quests related to him are finished

I know it's asked several times already, but how do you enter the Forbidden Forest? I am completely stumped.

i think, you might do something because of that gold exchange thing because you always get 100 for one bar, so if one bar costs less, you can get infinite money easily, i abused that a bit because i was like farming honey combs for money for like 20 minutes, lol

Awesome game ! But i got stuck after getting the nebula armlet, somehow going back from room two(mutiple golems) to room one(single red golem) worked before getting the armlet (door was open). But right after i got it i got stuck cause the red golem from room one respawned. If it helps i died and reloaded the game from last checkpoint.

Could use some help in Atai: Got the bombs, talked to everybody. Apparently now I need to get to the bandit in jail and find out where the lair is, but I can't reach him, I can't figure out on my own and from the comments how I'm supposed to do that.

How do I defeat the first harpy I find in the dept of the crater?

I'm honestly just stuck at Daea. I've talked to everyone and i dont know where to find Thomas. I've played through Misty Gorge three times.

Your question is handled in the faq here: http://quells.newgrounds.com/news/post/904515

Ok so here it goes. I hope you feel special lol because this is I think, the first comment I have ever made. I have never been soo sucked into a game that I absolutely HAD to comment on it. I mean think about it, if that alien game, which I'm pretty sure started on NG, can be made into an actual console game (although I didn't really follow it) THIS DAMN WELL BETTER BE!

Now for logic: The expansive and diverse game-play that is exhibited in this Zelda-esque 2D game is nothing short of miraculous. For how expansive it is, with all the side quests, collectables, and all round depth, with interaction of npc's and challenging puzzles and bosses, one would think this would be something you'd have to rent or buy.

I have never played a free 2D game that literally drew me to beat it, and not only beat it, but to keep scrounging for every last puzzle and collectable I could find. I probably haven't felt this much excitement since I played Zelda: OoT or Kingdom Hearts, and those were MASSIVE games. While this was obviously much smaller, it also had FAR less people and money driven into it... and let's STILL not forget... it's a free game on NG.

In addition, that ending... PLEASE tell me you have a sequel in mind, Hell, tell me you're making a console version, as I'd be one of the first people in line to buy the damned thing!

For people complaining about the "terrible" controls... I found if you reduce the quality to low, the controls are honestly fine. I could barely move at points and wasn't sure if it was just the area, or my comp was lagging. Turned out as soon as I lowered the quality BOOM no more control issues (Minus my timing in that god awful run for your life bit at the very end...)

YOU sir, are a genius... bravo... all my 5 belongs to you!

P.S. Is there only 40 Moonstones in the game total? Or is that just the last medal? Stuck at 35 atm...

How to enter the FORBIDDEN FOREST? On the map I have Forbidden Forest W. get in there and there are two empty houses, and a big mountain impossible to climb. I do see some machinery in the mountain, but how to activate the stairs?

Some ANSWERS for all of you!

-Girl that lost her memory at Cross Roads? Talk to her, when she remember a fruit, give her a Duri fruit. Get out, come back, she will remember a chocolat shake, go to Duri village, buy the Chocolat shake at 100$, give her. I think this is it. When going back to Duri, she will be there and give you something.

-The HARPY in the dept of the crater? Equip the javelin it's faster. The harpy have 3 attacks. I prefer to wait for the 3rd when she dive at you. The closer you are, the easier. When she dives, jump back and then jump-attack foward to smash her. She will go back, send the javelin right away, she will stop a little giving you time to jump-attack again and javalin again, repeat untill you are at the edge.

Spoilers!

In the hidden village, there is a harpy that mentions someone who went to forgotten forest and hasnt returned in a week. Is that a side quest? I have examined every nook and cranny of Foregtten forest and and I haven't found this person.

Got another question: How do I get into that room at the crossroads inn. The one in the top right with the purple switch.

Can you hlp me because i got out the ancient crater and i dont know what to do now to progres the story

could you put a list of moonestones and locations? I'm on 36 moonstones right now and I can't seem to find any more.

I'm stuck at 29 moonstones, but fixing that wouldn't be easy without a list of all of them, so...

At the pit at the Bandit's Lair with all the bats and the baby sand dragons, there is a rock you can destroy on the right that lets out the 'You uncovered a secret door' tune, but there's nothing underneath.

@ShitKid95
You need to unlock one of the other side quests at the Wall first before you start the letter one for the belt. Hint: somebody finds their bed a bit itchy ...

question:
can you miss sidequests, that cannot be done later in the game, or block them with other sidequests?

Questions if answered would end your suffering;

List of all items and how to atain them-vaguely

List of unlockable map areas and how to unlock them.

Number of gift quests per town.

*You covered bosses*

My personal problem at the moment is that I am stuck at the forbidden forest under the cliff and have no idea how to navigate that map. Bluntly put, how do?

And i can't find a dragon egg. Where would i go about finding that?

something to add about the "Eye Boss" if you stick a javelin onto the ledge in front of its weakpoint. you can stay there 3 out of the 5 stages. from there you'll be able to take out the smaller eyes, the drones, and avoid the red saw blades, all while being close enough to land hits with a charge attack.

A few loose strings:

Hi i loved that game! you guys got talent. the stor, the music, everything!

Ii'm about to finish the game. but had some things to do after and i need some clue:

1º wats the parrots "special food"? i belive i tried everything!. i must give it to the perro bird or her owner?
2º wats the special ingredient for the woman ho is tired of doing always the same recipes? i'v tried even with dry mushrooms, nuts and purple honey
3º whats with the rotenbread and the bad cooked rice? do it has something to do with te mayor's chief?
4ºin the wall do i have something to do with the soldier ho complains about the postal service?
5º in the wall too do i have something to do with the insomniac soldier?
6º is there a way to repair the bridge?
7º whats up with the talking golems zone and the cryo chambers?
8º do i have something to do with the father and son hwo doesn't have enough to pay their rent? i'v tried giving them some gold but nothing happens.
9º how to open that door at the end of 66 persuit?

thank you! awesome game! congratulations!

Stuck in Atai. Got bombs, spoke to everybody - can't progress :( How do I even get to the bandit? Someone please help!!!!

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